solarbaby614: (Kirk/Bones)
solarbaby614 ([personal profile] solarbaby614) wrote2009-10-30 04:20 pm

Wallpapers (Star Trek and Doom/Star Trek) and a plea for Reaper!Bones/ Kirk NaNoWriMo Help!

So I have an idea about what I want to do my NaNoWriMo on. Star Trek/Doom with Reaper!McCoy/Kirk in it. I want to basically gage interest in the idea and ask for idea for what should happen since the idea is pretty vague. Normally it wouldn't be a problem but it needs to be 50000 words and I don't think I've ever written a fic that long before.

So this is sort of a mirror'verse AU with Reaper!Bones. Basically, everyone knows that Starfleet is ran by a man named Reaper. But no one ever sees him so most people think he's a myth.. However, Reaper gets bored and decides to go out into the world by enrolling in Starfleet... as Leonard McCoy. Who should he meet but Kirk?

See the idea's still in the vague stage and I'd like some ideas about where to go with it.


And now for the wallpapers. There are Jim and George Kirk ones and Reaper!Bones/Kirk ones.

Jim and George Kirk









Reaper!Bones/Kirk












[identity profile] queenmoony.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
HELL YEAH! Love your Reaper! idea. Reaper would SO have started Starfleet.
I love the premise. I like the idea of McCoy almost going undercover to find out what is actually going on. I think that he might even be searching for someone to take over being Reaper (like Dread Pirate Roberts) so that he can live a different life, but he comes to love Jim and his life as McCoy (it would be awesome if Jim became known as "Grimm" and Bones being known as "Reaper" and they eventually rule the Federation with their extra chromosomes of DOOM!).
I would love to help out in any way for this story (it sounds amazing). My advice, being based on very little knowledge of the story, might be entirely useless. If so, comment back and I will have something with more substance for you.

[identity profile] asakochan.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
O.O Please write your Reaper idea. I will even help if your plot tribbles don't work!!! D: ... The thing I want to know is, Reaper, in your story, going to have C24? And expereanced all the things from Mars yes? Will he still have the tattoo from when he went there??? (I is curious fan)

[identity profile] solarbaby614.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
it would be awesome if Jim became known as "Grimm" and Bones being known as "Reaper" and they eventually rule the Federation with their extra chromosomes of DOOM!

This right here would be completely and totally awesome.


Fic wise it's all very vague. I want Reaper joining Starfleet and meeting Jim about the same way as in the movie. I'm thinking I want this fic to happen during the Acadamy and not get into Nero and all that but that's still up in the air. And I want possessive!Bones. Any idea's you have, any at all would be a big help.

[identity profile] solarbaby614.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Something will get written. That's for sure. Yep, C24, Mars and the Tattoo is all still there. Though I don't really remember a tattoo. How did I miss that? *goes to watch the movie again*

[identity profile] snowdarkred.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
HECKS YEAH! You know I'm here to help! I want this to happen, seriously and completely. It sounds very original, so yay on that front. I'm sure that people will be able to get you up to 50K. I applaud you for doing NaNoWriMo.

sdr, reporting for cheerleading, sir.

I don't know if I have anything specific in mind to add to what you have, but I would love to talk stuff out if you need it. ;) I support this 134%, so feel free to spam me if you want to. I'll PM you if I think of anything.

[identity profile] snowdarkred.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
You see it in the beginning, before the squad ships out. Reaper is sitting at a desk, playing with his guns (hur hur, btw) and he has his sleeves rolled up. It's on his left forearm.

...I just realized that I didn't even have to check to remember that. I have seen that movie way too many times. ^^ I know it inside and out.

[identity profile] queenmoony.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with having it set in the Academy. Because immature Jim is SO much fun to write.
It would be kind of obvious, but if you wrote it from a point of view that is filtered through Jim's perspective of the world, the whole "McCoy is Reaper, who started Starfleet, and is a freakin' powerful mutant creature" would be a cool reveal.
I will write more suggestions later.

[identity profile] snowdarkred.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
*looks around* I think you hit the the wrong button ^^' But, yeah, I agree, [livejournal.com profile] solarbaby614's idea sounds fantastic! So, does yours, actually. :D I think having both perspectives would be awesome.

[identity profile] solarbaby614.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't believe I missed that! *has to work that into the fic*

Can you make out what the tattoo is of? I can't tell.

[identity profile] solarbaby614.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Immature!Jim is fun. So is immature!kindaslutty!Jim. If I have my way Reaper isn't going to like that.

I can't do one persepective well so it'll probably be from a couple.

[identity profile] solarbaby614.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope I can get it done for NaNoWriMo. I've never actually written a 50k fic before.

I'll definately take up that offer to talk stuff out. I'll probably PM you when I start outlining.

[identity profile] snowdarkred.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe that it's the Marine insignia, like this. Hold on while I check.... No, I think I was wrong. I can't make it out all the way, but if I had to guess, I'd say it was a Grim Reaper. Or a gun, it's hard to see clearly, and I don't think it shows up again. *squints* I can't tell.

You could probably get away with whatever you wanted to put there.

[identity profile] queenmoony.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi! I'm back with ideas.

What if Reaper had sensed that something was going on at Starfleet that was being kept from him, he feels that there might be genetic manipulation like on Mars being experimented with at Starfleet. He goes to investigate that, taking on the identity of McCoy to do so. What if one of the scientist working on these experiments was Sam, Jim's brother? It could create a very compelling parellel to John Grimm and his sister.

Or (or and (don't know how this would work, but it could)...) Reaper had chosen George Kirk to be the man to take over for him so that he could go live another life. When George dies Reaper continues his work at Starfleet. Till George Kirk's son, Jim, catches his attention. He attends Starfleet as McCoy to get to know Jim, only to fall in love with him.

If you want to work with both ideas: Reaper had chosen George as his replacement, George dies, when Jim joins Starfleet (with the encouragement of Pike, one of Reaper's agents), Reaper becomes McCoy to see if Jim would make a good replacement, falls in love with him, and discovers chromosome 24 like genetic manipulation secretly being experimented by Starfleet (insert Jim's brother here).

Is any of that helpful?

[identity profile] snowdarkred.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Great! I'd love to help out. The longest completed fic I've ever written was only 13K, while my WIP is about 20K. 50K sounds intimidating, but you can do it! (Love the wallpaper, btw!)

Hm, do you mind if I friend you? I would hate to misplace your username should I get an idea.

[identity profile] solarbaby614.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind if you friend me. That is, if you don't mind me friending you back!

[identity profile] solarbaby614.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
That is definately helpful. It's already giving me ideas.

[identity profile] snowdarkred.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooo, I like the first one. :D Sounds like it could easily go to 50K. Plenty of drama with angsty opportunity, and a nice balance of possible action.

What if the only way to destroy the evidence of C24 was to break into the labs? If Jim knew about it, he would insist on going too, and Reaper would either have to knock him out (cue angst and guilt for Reaper, anger for Jim) or let Jim go with him, in which he would worry about Jim's safety. OR, if Jim doesn't know at this point, Jim would wonder why Bones is being so secretive lately, cue angst and worrying. :DDD

[identity profile] snowdarkred.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
OF COURSE NOT. *friends*

[identity profile] solarbaby614.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes!

And I have to have Jim C24'ed at the end of the fic. So Reaper doesn't destroy it all.

[identity profile] snowdarkred.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Jim could get hurt while they were on their super secret mission! And Reaper could change him to save him! And that's why he doesn't really worry when Spock beats the crap out Jim, because Jim was already superhuman!

And then they could plot on how to regain control of Starfleet.

[identity profile] snowdarkred.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
*of

*headdesk*

[identity profile] queenmoony.livejournal.com 2009-10-30 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
My vote is that you mix the personalities of John Grimm "Reaper" with Leonard McCoy "Bones," that there is a balance between the two, instead of having John Grimm just entirely pretending. Like McCoy is based on some aspects of John Grimm's personality and that by pretending to be Doctor Leonard H. McCoy Reaper had actually developed some of the traits.
Do you understand what I mean? Like in every lie there is some truth.

[identity profile] queenmoony.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I do think that a good amount of the story Jim should be normal. I like the possible contrast of Jim acting invincible while he is so delicate (play up allergies, maybe some history of illness, etc) and Bones being practically immortal and being so fearful (not the right word, careful? I don't know). Also, I think that having Reaper being very overprotective of Jim would make more sense. Here he is, taking a chance, falling in love, with a boy who seems to have a death wish.

If you go into the movie, as wonderfully suggested, with Jim being superhuman, that could be AWESOME! There Jim is, getting into trouble for cheating, and he has Reaper, the REAPER, stand up for him.
He might be just a stowaway, but he is one of the most influential people in the Federation (son of a hero, lover of the leader of Starfleet). That somewhere in the plot of the movie, Captain Pike listens to a command from Doctor McCoy. DUN DUN DA!

Any way you go with this, it is important to depict Reaper/Bones well. He may be trying to avoid "leadership" while he is being McCoy, but when push comes to shove, he is the Reaper and will save the day. At first he should be overprotective of Jim the way he was with Sam in the movie Doom, and when romance gets thrown in there, he just becomes VERY possesive.

I like the idea of playing with the dynamics of their relationship. Bones treats Jim like a child, but they are romantically involved, and Reaper respects Jim, even if he belittle him, etc. Their friendship/romance is basically an oxymoron. Also, you should deal with the fact that they are BOTH alpha males and both want to be in charge. (If you go into the movie, or even just have an epilouge, the idea that Captain Kirk may be the leader of the Enterprise, but Reaper is his leader could be an interesting topic to address).

[identity profile] solarbaby614.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Definately. Some of the fic's I've read have Reaper as a different personality as Bones which is good and well, but I don't want to write him that way. It gets too confusing.

I was actually surprised at how McCoy-like Reaper was in the movie. Out of the whole group he was the one who performed as the medic when the one guy died (was it Goat?).

[identity profile] solarbaby614.livejournal.com 2009-10-31 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's more like Reaper changes him to save him, they have lots of sex, and then they plot on regaining control of Starfleet.

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